SOARA Saturday Technet Log

SOARA Saturday Technet Log

Every Saturday tech net starting 9am, until we can meet again, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters

Questions or answers. Try to keep your turn to 3 minutes or less.

10/17/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed, Net Control & logging
    1. questions on:
      1. digital pl tones on papa system
      2. propagation not the same both ways
      3. programming Kenwood D74
  2. AD6OI, Heiko
  3. KM6FOY, Bill
  4. K6EEE, Jim
  5. KN6CFW, Toby
  6. KI6LOM, Jim
  7. K7KCE, Joe
  8. W6EDT, Dale
  9. KN6IRN, Ed
  10. KG6QCI, Dave, Ted & Max
  11. K6TJO, Tim
  12. N6RRV, Scott
  13. K6WHC, Scott
  14. K6RBS, Richard
  15. NR6E, Mikkel

10/10/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. AK4DB, Darren
  5. KM6FOA, Mitchel
    1. Replace RF power transistors
  6. NR6E, Mikkel
  7. N6TIK, John
    1. RF vs Electrical Ground
  8. W6EDT, Dale
    1. Auction of donated test equipment, 10:30-1:30 Sat & Sun.
  9. NH7WG, Bruce
    1. 1/4 wave ground plane antennas?
    2. If in a field, mag mount with cookie sheet vs 1/4 wave ground plane with three counterpoise aimed down
    3. Try a jpole, pull up to top of tree
    4. 2 meters 146.580
    5. 19″ nagoya mag mount
  10. N6RRV, Scott
    1. Icom 275, rf gain knob, what does RF gain do?
  11. KI6LOM, Jim
  12. K6RBS, Richard
    1. Neighbor’s led lights generate RF
  13. K6UVR, Steve
  14. KM6Hcc, Steve

10/03/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
    1. SOARA electronic badge
      1. Parallax,
        1. https://www.parallax.com/
      2. Adafruit, two versions
        1. https://www.adafruit.com/product/3939
        2. https://www.adafruit.com/product/4200
      3. Custom SOARA badge, (no recomendations on these links, just researching)
        1. TFT display, Raspberry Pi Zero W
          1. 1.54 inch tft
          2. 3.5 inch display
        2. Lipo battery
          1. Battery on Ebay
          2. Different bigger battery on Ebay
        3. Post source code on Github
  3. KM6FOY, Bill
  4. K6WHC, Scott
  5. K6RJO, Rich
  6. NR6E, Mikkel
  7. KI6LOM, Jim
  8. KB6HRO, Joe
  9. AE6H, Ray
  10. KG6LZP, Ed
    1. TNC variations, any types better?
      1. sound card
        1. https://kb3kai.com/sound-card-tnc
        2. http://www.mcminnarc.com/packet/packet.html
      2. Arduino version
        1. Mobilinkd
      3. built into radio
    2. Winlink
    3. Mobile radio recommendations for winlink?
  11. KB6POE, Richard

9/26/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KM6FOY, Bill
  4. KE6GQO, Monte
  5. KM6FPF, John
  6. K6EEE, Jim
  7. K7KCE, Joe
  8. AE6H, Ray
  9. K6RJO, Rich
  10. W6EDT, Dale
  11. AJ6LU, Harald
  12. KI6LOM, Jim
  13. W6UXD, Mike
  14. AI6WE, Mike
  15. KB6POE, Richard

9/19/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KM6FPF, John
  4. KI6LOM, Jim
  5. K6EEE, Jim
  6. K6TJO, Tim
  7. KM6FOY, Bill
  8. W6UXD Mike
  9. K6RJO, Rich
  10. K7KCE, Joe
  11. W6BOT, Rich
  12. AE6H, Ray
  13. K6MSM, Mike

9/12/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. NH7WG, Bruce
  4. KM6FOY, Bill
  5. K6UVR, Steve
  6. AE6H, Ray
  7. KM6FPF, John
  8. WA5C, Ben
  9. W7RTO Robin
  10. NR6E, Mikkel
  11. W6EDT, Dale
  12. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  13. KI6LOM, Jim

9/5/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko, Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  4. KM6FPF, John
  5. AE6H, Ray
  6. KM6FOY, Bill
  7. WE4BY, Greg
  8. NR6E, Mikkel
  9. K6EEE, Jim
  10. K6RBS, Richard

8/29/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. KM6FPF, John
  5. K6NOV, Ray
  6. NR6E, Mikkel
  7. K6RJO, Rich
  8. K6FTL, Alex
  9. KC6ACT, Greg
  10. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  11. K7KCE, Joe
  12. KN6CUV, Daren
  13. KI6LOM, Jim

8/22/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. W6EDT, Dale
  5. NR6E, Mikkel
  6. WB6HRO, Joe
  7. KI6LOM, Jim
  8. K6FTL, Alex
  9. K6WHC, Scott
  10. AI6WE, Mike
  11. K6EEE, Jim
  12. K6UVR, Steve
  13. K6RBS, Richard
  14. WE4BY, Greg

8/15/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KM6FPF, John
  4. K7KCE, Joe
  5. K6FTL, Alex
  6. NR6E, Mikkel
  7. KI6LOM, Jim
  8. KN6AFR, Deon
  9. K6WHC, Scott
  10. AE6H, Ray
  11. KM6HCC, Steve
  12. W6INE, Erik
  13. K6RJO, Rich

8/8/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. K6NOV, Ray
  4. AE6H, Ray
  5. AJ6LU, Harald
  6. K6RJO, Rich
  7. W7RTO. Robin
  8. K6WHC, Scott
  9. NR6E, Mikkel
  10. W6EDT, Dale

8/1/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KC6FZY, Charlie
  4. KM6FPF, John
  5. K7KCE. Joe
  6. KM6FOY, Bill
  7. AE6H, Ray
  8. K6JKB, Jim
  9. NH7WG, Bruce
  10. W6EDT, Dale
  11. KN6CVB, Bob
  12. K6NOV, Ray
  13. KK6CUR, Kevin
  14. K6RBS, Richard

7/25/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. AJ6EE, Kevin
  5. KM6FPF, John
    1. log periodic vs yagi
  6. W6EDT, Dale
    1. How to test gas discharge lightning protection devices
      1. Polyphaser whitepaper online
  7. K7KCE, Joe
  8. KN6BMR, David
  9. K6MSM, Mike
  10. KM6FOY, Bill
  11. KW6REX, Rex
  12. KI6LOM, Jim
  13. NR6E, Mikkel
  14. KN6ASR, Deon

7/18/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed, Net Control & logging
  2. AE6H, Ray
    1. Microphones, Dynamic vs Condenser
    2. https://www.microphonetopgear.com/types-of-microphones/
  3. AD6OI, Heiko
  4. KM6FOY, Bill
    1. New WSJTX 2.2.2.2
  5. K7KCE, Joe
    1. Antenna analyzers, discussed lab equipment, Rigexpert & NanoVNA
    2. https://www.amazon.com/Elikliv-Analyzer-10k-1-5GHz-Measuring-Instrument/dp/B088H5JJR2/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=nanovna+h&qid=1595093632&sr=8-10
  6. W6EDT, Dale

7/11/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging
  3. KM6FPF, John
  4. K6WHC, Scott
  5. N67WG, Bruce
  6. K7KCE, Joe
  7. KM6FOY, Bill
  8. W6EDT, Dale
  9. KM6ASR Deon
  10. K6NOV, Ray

7/4/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (Closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging on SOARA.org
  3. KI6LOM, Jim
  4. AE6H, Ray
  5. W6EDT, Dale
  6. KM6FPF, John
    1. Q1, DSTAR, reflectors
    2. Q2, HF, vert antenna, radials pattern, does it matter?
  7. K6EEE, Jim
  8. KM6FOY, Bill
  9. NH7WG, Bruce
  10. K6RJO, Rich
  11. KN6JHQ, Joe
  12. K6TJO, Tim

6/20/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (Closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko Net Control
    1. Logger
      1. https://www.n3fjp.com/index.html
  2. WA6ED, Ed, logging on SOARA.org
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. K6RJO, Rich
  5. AI6WE, Mike
  6. KM6RFI, Dave
  7. KM6FPF, John
  8. KM6FOY, Bill
  9. WE4BY, Greg
  10. AJ6LU, Harald
  11. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  12. KJ6OKV, Anthony
    1. TASMA
    2. 220SMA
    3. SCRRBA
  13. W6EDT, Dale
  14. AI6OU, David
  15. K6UVR, Steve
  16. K6RBS, Richard
    1. SDR
      1. http://www.websdr.org/
    2. Logger
      1. https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/
  17. K6JBL, Jerry

6/13/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed (net control & log)
  2. K6RBS, Richard
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. KM6FOY, Bill
  5. KN6BMR, David
  6. W6SI, Tak
  7. W6EDT, Dale
  8. W6INE, Erik
  9. WE4BY, Greg
  10. K6RJO, Rich

6/6/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed (log)
  3. AE6H, Ray
  4. NR6E, Mikkel
  5. W6INE, Erik
  6. W6SI, Tak
  7. KE6GQO, Monte
  8. AJ6LU, Harald
  9. KN6BMR, David
  10. KM6FOY, Bill
  11. K6RJO, Rich
  12. K6EEE, Jim
  13. K6RBS, Richard
  14. KM6AFI, George
  15. NJ6N, Brian
  16. W6EDT, Dale
  17. K6UVR, Steve
  18. NH7WG, Bruce
  19. K6FRY, Bill
  20. KJ6OKV, Anthony

5/30/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed (net control & log)
  2. AD6OI, Heiko
  3. AI6WE, Mike
  4. KE6GQO, Monte
  5. KC6FZY, Charlie
  6. KM6FOY, Bill
  7. KN6BMR, David
  8. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  9. W6EDT, Dale
  10. AJ6LU, Harold
  11. KE6BXT, Don
  12. K6EEE, Jim
  13. K6TJO Tim
  14. K6RBS, Richard
  15. NJ6N, Brian
  16. AE6H, Ray
  17. AA6UG, Morris, easy digi board

5/23/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed (log)
  3. W6EDT Dale
    1. Traced previous issue with Raspberry Pi, POE, mesh-node
  4. KC6FZY Charlie
    1. Linear power amplifiers, power measurement issues
  5. K6WHC Scott
    1. OC Races 60 meter band, KX3
    2. Hustler 60 meter stick antenna
    3. most internal tuners can handle 3:1 or better
    4. Anybody on 60 meters?
    5. K6EEE uses g5rv junior with KX3, initial reading 6:1, KX3 tuner quite good
  6. AE6H, Ray
    1. SF Pier 45, 4 alarm fire
  7. KG6JBL, Jerry
  8. KN6BMR David
    1. weak signal
  9. K6EEE, Jim
  10. K6RBS, Richard
  11. AI6WE, Mike

5/9/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed (log)
  3. KE6GQO, Monte
  4. K6WHC, Scott
  5. KN6BMR, David
  6. W6SI, Tak
  7. KM6FOY, Bill
    1. when driving a ground rod into the ground, be sure no gas or water, electric lines to hit. Free call to utilities
  8. W6EDT, Dale
  9. KN6FOA, Mitchel
  10. KK6URR, Russ
  11. AJ6LU, Harold
    1. Grounding your station
      1. ARRL Book on Grounding and bonding
  12. K6RBS, Richard
    1. RF ground
    2. AC ground
    3. During storms, ladder line, arcing in tuner, time to disconnect ladder line and ground it.
  13. KI6LOM, Jim
  14. AD6OH, Patti
    1. 3D printing
      1. Friction welding question
  15. KM6IRT, Peter

5/3/2020 Sunday 10 Meter Net 9am

  1. WA6ED, Ed, net control (closed)
  2. AD6OI, Heiko
  3. KM6FOY, Bill
  4. KR6ISS, Kriss
  5. W6BOT, Rich
  6. AE6H, Ray
  7. K6UVR, Steve
  8. N6SNX, George
  9. K6RJO, Rich
  10. K6RBS, Richard
  11. NU6R, Nick

5/3/2020 Sunday 40 Meter Net 8am (closed)

  1. WA6LDI, Phil, net control
  2. N6JCN, Jim
  3. KR6ISS, Kriss
  4. WA6ED, Ed
  5. K6UVR, Steve
  6. W6EDT, Dale
  7. K6RJO, Rich
  8. KG6FCT, Lou
  9. KM6FOY, Bill
  10. K6RBS, Richard
  11. KC6FZY, Charlie

Every Saturday tech net starting 9am, until we can meet again, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters

Questions or answers. Try to keep your turn to 3 minutes or less.

5/2/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 1 47.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed (logging this page)
  3. K6RJO Rich
  4. K6BMR David
  5. AE6H Ray
  6. NR6E Mikkel
  7. KM6FOY Bill
  8. W6EDT Dale
  9. K6RJO Tim
  10. KI6LOM Jim
  11. NJ6N Brian
  12. K6RBS Richard
  13. K6UVR Steve

4/25/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed (logging this page)
  3. W6BIK, Jeff
    1. Does a FTM400 need a cooling fan?
      1. only if it gets hot
      2. display gets warm, need goods air flow
        1. dim display, it will run cooler! Woo Hoo! Thanks Jeff.
      3. How much TX power?
      4. TX duty cycle?
  4. KN6BMR, David
    1. Baofang receiver noise
      1. led lights
      2. out of band noise
      3. in band noise
      4. try a filter, fun to experiment!
  5. KM6FOY, Bill
    1. Some Baofangs work better than others
    2. For the price, it’s what
  6. NR6E, Mikkel
  7. K6RJO, Rich
  8. AI6WE, Mike
  9. W6SI, Tak
  10. KC6FZY, Charley
    1. WIRES messing up repeater
  11. AE6H, Ray
    1. set your timeout timer 60-90 seconds. This will protect your radio from a stuck PTT and overheat your radio.
  12. G7LWT, Darren
  13. KM6HCC, Steve
  14. K6RBS, Richard
    1. offered to check out David’s noise in the area
  15. NJ6N, Brian
    1. Turn off WIRES
  16. W6EDT, Dale
    1. 3-5 impulses of noise, something oscillating, need trouble shooting ideas
    2. goes away at 1 watt
    3. 1 second after key up, wide band
    4. centered on discrete frequencies
    5. happens on two radios
    6. happens on different antennas
    7. 15 meters
    8. 1-5 seconds in a series after tx stops.
    9. check coax? (from Bill)
    10. Radio a & b pick up each other issue
    11. Flex & 7300
    12. Try CW keyer, with directional antenna
    13. something storing energy and then re-radiating?
  17. K6FTL, Alex

4/18/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. AE6H, Ray
    1. Field Day, Gilleran Park Closed
    2. Investigating Alternatives
  3. AB6CP, Adam
    1. 6 meter, 10 meter antenna  suggestions?
      1. vertical
      2. dipole
      3. CB antenna could be adapted to 10 meters
  4. K6WHC, Scott
  5. K6RJO, Rich
  6. K6SI, Tak
  7. KM6FQY, Bill
  8. AJ6LU, Harald
  9. KE6GQO, Montey
  10. W6BIK, Jeff
    1. Lido, Panavice
    2. double stick
  11. AI6ED, Mike
  12. N6WH, Liana
  13. KN6CVA, Bob
  14. KB6POE, Richard
  15. KM6ZPI, Josh
  16. KK6UMB, Tom
  17. KC6FZY, Charley
  18. W6EDT, Dale

4/11/2020 SOARA Saturday Tech net, 9am, 147.645 and 447.180 repeaters (closed)

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. WA6ED, Ed
  3. W6EDT, Dale
  4. K6RJO, Rich
  5. K6MSM, Mike
  6. N6WH, Liana
  7. KC6FZY, Charlie
  8. WD6E, Mike
    1. spectrum.ieee.org
    2. mtt.org
    3. microwavejournal.com
  9. AJ6LJU, Harold
  10. KM6FOY, Bill
  11. AB6CP, Adam
  12. NR6E, Mikkel
  13. K6ACJ, Bill
  14. K6UVR, Steve
  15. K6RBS, Richard
    1. homingin.com
      1. JoeMoell
    2. http://www.foxhunt.com.au/
      1. vk3yng
  16. KJ5KG, David
  17. AG6VQ, Mike
  18. KJ6PFW, Patrick

4/5/2020 10M 9am net (closed 9:39)

  1. WA6ED, Ed, (net control)
  2. K6UVR, Steve
  3. AD6OI, Heiko
  4. KM6FOY, Bill
  5. KR6ISS, Kriss, 73
  6. N6NSX, George, 73
  7. N6JCN, Jim

4/5/2020 40M 8am net (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed (net control)
  2. W6EDT, Dale
  3. KM6FOY, Bill
  4. KR6ISS, Kriss
  5. WE4BY, Greg
  6. KG6FCT, Lou
  7. K6RBS, Richard
  8. W6DZL, Bob, Utah, 73
  9. K6UVR, Steve, 73
  10. KC6FZY, Charlie
  11. N6JCN, Jim

4/4/2020 Tech Net 9am (closed)

  1. WA6ED, Ed (net control)
  2. AD6OI, Heiko
    1. meetings online to members, goto meeting, zoom, and others
    2. how to make updates on www.soara.org
    3. linked 2m to 440, wait for both to key down
  3. K6WHC, Scott
    1. interesting session
  4. WB6NOA Gordon
    1. beam antenna, moon bounce, FM Sat., meteor scatter, 6M FM, 10KHz wide
    2. this summer, high pressure, tropospheric ducting
    3. kids excited tonight 8:37 ISS, 3 min, 41 deg, look NNW
    4. Tusday NASA TV
    5. Clear
  5. Ae6h Ray
    1. radio repair problem, alinco 605, fuse glowed, display half brightness,
    2. radio timers set 90-120 seconds
    3. 10MHz cutoff USB, below 10MHz LSB
    4. chimney help
  6. W6BIK Jeff
    1. ticket in Jan, studying for general
    2. webex and goto meeting, lately zoom, 40 minute sessions, zoombombing
    3. likes the notes!!!!!
  7. WD6E Mike
    1. 57 GHz & up
    2. liked modes tropo work, moon bounce, Stanford dish antenna, 1200 mhz to Hawaii
    3. likes the log too!!!!
  8. KM6ZPO, Mark,
    1. checking in, tram1480?
    2. zoom not using passwords
  9. KK6TTL, Jimmy
    1. suggestion: record tech net, 5W HF radio, how to determine lsb usb difference in reception?
    2. sw to demod SSB signal, headless radio, cell phone control
    3. using LSB USB convention clears up question
    4. 73
  10. KM6FOY Bill,
    1. chimney mount, use stainless straps
    2. chimney mounts designed for TV antennas
    3. black UV zip ties
  11. KE6RDK, Dan, on car mobile
    1. zoom
    2. Chimney mount question asker! Thank you for all the info. (Maybe connect with Ray)
    3. 73
  12. W6EDT, Dale
    1. after keying pulses, every 50khz
    2. suggest stainless chimney straps, galvanized lasted about 4 years, wide as possible to reduce load
    3. USB LSB, 60 meter USB only channelized
    4. 73
  13. AI6CG, Mark
    1. checked in, monitoring
    2. Anaheim ht
    3. 73 / clear
  14. AG6VQ, Mike
    1. ID-51 HT, how to get onto DSTAR?
    2. Car antenna next!
    3. 73 / clear
  15. WE4BY, Greg
    1. software decode? LSB USB
    2. Webex at work, metal faring, slot antenna, 2 story roof
    3. LSB USB convention, contrarians
    4. timed out?
  16. KN6BMR, David
    1. 73
  17. KK6LZB, Roger
    1. Zoom Webex, Skype, feature set
  18. KF6QPC, John
    1. getting familiar with DMR & Fusion, FT70D
  19. AI6OU, David
  20. K6RBS, Richard
    1. set your timer
    2. glendora jamming repeater
    3. 60meter US
  21. K6ACJ, Bill
    1. recorded net

4/3/2020 Dinner net 7pm

  1. AD6OI, Heiko (net control)
  2. NR6E, Mikkel
  3. WD6E, Mike
  4. WA6ED, Ed
  5. KM6FOY, Bill
  6. AE6H, Ray, 73
  7. W6INE, Erik
  8. G7LWT, Darren, echolink, UK?, 3am, 73
  9. K6TJO, Tim, Radio check, 73
  10. AG6VQ, Michael, final, 73
  11. K6FTL, Alex, 73
  12. K6HHC, Scott, clear